Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman found himself in a heated exchange with podcast host Joe Rogan over the Democratic Party's use of immigration politics.
The conversation, which spanned a broad spectrum of political issues, highlighted the contentious nature of immigration as a key electoral issue.
According to Fox News, the discussion touched on the 2016 victory of Donald Trump and the current state of immigration politics. Democrats frequently refer to a bipartisan border bill that was rejected in late May, accusing Republicans of avoiding a resolution to the issue. Conversely, Republicans argue that the bill offered too many immigration compromises, rendering it ineffective.
Fetterman cited a politician from years past who proposed that neither Republicans nor Democrats genuinely desire to resolve the ongoing immigration crisis. He claimed this theory was validated when Republicans in 2024 missed an opportunity to pass a comprehensive bipartisan border bill. "Trump declared that that's a bad deal after it was negotiated with the other side," Fetterman stated.
Rogan, however, pointed out that the deal included many concessions that Republicans, particularly those concerned about border control, found unacceptable. He questioned Fetterman, "But didn't that deal also involve amnesty?" to which Fetterman confirmed, "It did, yeah." Rogan further probed, "And didn't that deal also involve a significant number of illegal aliens being allowed into the country every year, I think it was 2 million people?" Fetterman again confirmed, albeit hesitantly, "It, uh, well, yeah."
The podcast host continued, expressing concerns that the same situation would persist. He voiced fears that these individuals would be relocated to swing states, potentially manipulating those states and permanently turning them Democratic. Fetterman, however, expressed uncertainty about this scenario.
Fetterman attempted to steer the conversation towards a more honest dialogue, but Rogan interjected, suggesting it was "logical" that if enough people entered illegally, settled in swing states, and obtained a path to citizenship, it could potentially manipulate those states.
Fetterman conceded, "Undeniably, immigration is changing our nation." He acknowledged the transformative impact of immigration on states like Texas, stating, "I haven't spent a lot of time in Texas but it's very clear that immigration has remade Texas and I think it's generally, it's a good thing." This statement underscores the complex and divisive nature of immigration politics in the United States, a topic that continues to spark heated debates and remains a key issue in electoral politics.
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